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Bruce Keener, Lt. header
Lt. Bruce Keener, III  
SECTION 7.
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SECTION 7. CONTENTS
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Our mission was to function as the seaward extension of the DEW line, manning radar picket stations 250 - 300 miles off the coasts of Washington and Oregon, and passing track information on all air contacts to a NORAD regional control center at McCord Air Force Base. The stations off the California coast were normally manned by YAGR's (converted Liberty ships) operating out of San Francisco, but on  a couple  of  occasions  we  filled  in  their  northern  station,  reporting to Hamilton  AFB.
Naval career of Bruce Keener, III
Feb 43 - Jun 44 


Jun 44 - Jun 47  
S1/c USNR.  Boot Camp San Diego, stereo rangefinder school DesBase San Diego, Navy 90mm AA battery, inact duty Nov 43 in prep for U. S. Naval Academy

U. S. Naval Academy
SEA DUTY
1947 - 1950
1950 - 1951
1951 - 1953
1956 - 1958
1961 - 1963
1964 - 1966
1969 - 1971
1973 - 1974
1975 - 1977
USS MADDOX (DD731)    Gunnery Officer
USS EVANSVILLE (PF70)    Gunnery Officer
USS PHILIPPINE SEA (CV47)    Electronics Officer
USS SAVAGE    Executive Officer
USS LYNDE MCCORMICK (DDG8)    Commissioning XO
USS JOSEPH STRAUSS (DDG16)    Commanding Officer
USS SEATTLE (AOE3)    Commissioning CO
Commander Destroyer Squadron TWENTY-FOUR
Commander Cruiser-Destroyer Group TWO
SHORE DUTY
1953 - 1956



1958 - 1961

1963 - 1964


1966 - 1967


1967 - 1969


1971 - 1973


1974 - 1975

1977 - 1978


1978 - 1979


1979 - 1981
U. S. Navy Postgraduate School, Monterey, Calif
    B. S.    Engineering Electronics
    M. S.   Engineering Electronics

Key West Test and Evaluation Detachment Head, Sonar Evaluation S

U. S. Naval War College, Newport, RI
    Student, Naval Warfare (Senior) Course

Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
    Special Assistant to the Chief of Naval Operations, ADM David L. McDonald

Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
    Head, National Policy Branch

Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
    Head, Current Plans Branch

Commander Navy Recruiting Area EIGHT

Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
    Director of Ship Acquisition

Office of the Chief of Naval Operations
    Assistant Deputy Director of Naval Operations for Surface Warfare

Commander Military Sealift Command
DECORATIONS
Distinguished Service Medal             Legion of Merit            Meritorious Service Medal with three stars

                         Bronze Star with Combat "V"                   Navy Unit Commendation
PROMOTIONS
BACK TO SECTION 6.Charles W. Bird, LTJGRoger B. Christen, EN3
"Admiral"  R. J. CrumleyRaymon J. Crumley, DC3Joseph F. Drouin, QMC
Escort Squadron 5Gailon O. Hall, RM2Gene Hansen, EM3
Fred C. Hochreiter, AG2Don Kazimir, LTJGLt. Bruce Keener, III
Ensign Mel KowalHarold "Hal" Lucas, ETN2Roger Nolan Makin, SN2c
Bobby G. McLeod, A/1cNome Visit 1963Nome Visit (2)
Officers 1962Edward W. Russell, ET3Edward P. Stone, LTJG 
Jesse F. Turner, EN3Jesse F. Turner, EN3 (2)Ron Werner, BMSN

[Biography of RADM. Bruce Keener was donated to the USS Savage Reunion Association by RADM Keener in 1991,  permission was granted for public distribution of this material.]
Rear Admiral Bruce Keener, III 

HOMENEW ADDITIONSSITE MAPINTRODUCTION
FOREWORDINVOCATION1. WALTER S. SAVAGE, JR.2.  DE-386 (WWII)
3.  DE-386 CREW4.  DE-386 CREW PHOTOS5.  DE-386 SHIP PHOTOS6.  DER-386 (1955)
7.  DER CREW 1955 - 19648.  DER-386 PHOTOS9.  SAVAGE IN VIETNAM10.  VIETNAM CREW
11.  VIETNAM PHOTOS12.  SHIP'S AWARDS13.  ACTIVE SERVICE TERMINATED14.  REUNION ASSOCIATION
15.  DECEASED16.  ROSTER17  REUNION PHOTOS18.  KEEPSAKES
19.  MISCELLANEOUS20.  SITE POLICIES21.  WEBMASTER22   COMMANDING OFFICERS 
23.  MISCELLANEOUS CREW PHOTOS24. SHIPS IN VIETNAM/AGENT ORANGE25. SHIP'S HISTORY

23 May, 1991

"I joined the SAVAGE on June 24, [1956] in her homeport of Seattle, Washington, and was detached on June 14, 1958, also in Seattle (at that time, two years of sea duty in the grade of LT were required before you could be promoted to LCDR).  Inasmuch as all my previous three years as a LT had been spent at the Naval Postgraduate School studying electronics, BuPers advised me that I had better spend two years -- to the day -- in SAVAGE.  I was happy to comply.  Throughout my time on board, she was a unit of Escort Squadron FIVE (CORTRON FIVE), along with FALGOUT, LOWE, HAVERFIELD, KOINER and WILHOITE. Near the end of my tour, FINCH, FORSTER and VANCE joined the squadron, and about  a  year  later  the  whole  squadron was  moved from  Seattle  to Pearl  Harbor. 
photograph of Rear Admiral Bruce Keener, III
Our mission was to function as the seaward extension of the DEW line, manning radar picket stations 250 - 300 miles off the coasts of Washington and Oregon, and passing track information on all air contacts to a NORAD regional control center at McCord Air Force Base.  The stations off the California coast were normally manned by YAGR's (converted Liberty ships) operating out of San Francisco, but on  a  couple  of  occasions  we  filled  in their northern station,  reporting  to  Hamilton  AFB.

The duty was pleasant in summer, but hell in winter, riding out the fronts that came roaring across the Pacific from Siberia.  Also, it was the only sea duty that I have known in which the schedule was absolutely predictable.  When the annual OpSked was published, you could make firm plans for the rest of the year.  It was GREAT, so much so that every ship lived in dread of suffering a casualty that would break the chain, and did everything possible to make sure that it didn't happen.  One ship did have to come off station early (of which more later), but it was only by a matter of a couple of days, so her relief's sailing was just moved up a day.  Even so, the ship that had to come home early never lived  it  down.

A few odds and ends about the conversion, and the ship itself.  As most everyone probably knows, a new aluminum superstructure was installed, which included plating in the main deck amidships, similar to an APD conversion, except that in the DER conversion, the mess deck, scullery, sick bay and CPO lounge were on the starboard side, and two berthing compartments were on the port side. Invariably, the latter were assigned to the engineers, because scuttles to the main spaces were located in them.  CIC was located on the second deck forward, basically where the mess deck used to be.   Aft on the O1 Deck was a new deckhouse containing electronics for the AN/SPS-8B height-finding radar and the Tacan, a 20mm clipping room, and a balloon hut for inflating and rigging weather balloons (our secondary mission was assisting air navigation).  The CO's cabin and the sonar shack were both on the O2 level, just aft of the pilot house, and just below the O1 level were Radio Central and  the  Ship's  Office.

The ship's compliment of 12 officers and 165 enlisted was, from my viewpoint, just about ideal from every aspect of a sailor's or a naval officer's life.  The ship was large enough to have state-of-the-art equipments to perform diversified primary and secondary missions, and skilled personnel to operate and maintain those equipments.  But at the same time it was small enough so that everyone aboard could rapidly acquire skills and responsibilities important, even vital, to the ship's performance as a unit.   We  don't  have  any  such  ships  today,  and  the U.S. Navy is the  poorer for  that  fact.

Sea Stories!!  I've got about a million of them, but will try to hit just the highlights.  Think I'll start with our port visit to the little logging town of South Bend, Washington, not too long after I reported on board.  Two, no three, things stand out in my mind.  First, the ship was open for general visiting on both Saturday and Sunday, and every male -- man or boy -- who came on board was wearing logger's caulk boots.  It is hard to exaggerate the damage those boots can do to freshly painted steel and (especially) aluminum decks.  I thought our leading boatswain's mate, an absolutely marvelous first class named Van Scyock ("Van Sike") was going to die of apoplexy.  In my first real test as an XO, I had to order the Gunnery Officer, the First Lieutenant and BM1 Van Scyock to dismiss any thoughts of posting "No Caulk Boots" signs at the brow, or demanding that such boots be checked at the gangway.

The next crisis was the discovery of a boy, somewhere around 8 to 10 years old, halfway up the foremast, with the HF radio transmitters still active, and two of his playmates hot on his heels.  After we got them safely down, I ordered the OOD to secure both masts, and he did so with a vengeance. On my turn around the ship the next morning, I discovered that 3/4" plywood ratguards, at least six feet in diameter and reinforced with angle iron, had been securely fastened on each mast. Furthermore, each was carefully painted a regulation haze gray.  They stayed up until the morning we sailed.

The third event burned in my memory at South Bend was that SAVAGE, for the first and only time in my two years in her, ran out of starting air.  Of all the ships in CORTRON FIVE, SAVAGE was the only one whose torpedo-charging flasks had not been removed during the conversion.  Consequently, we routinely carried those big bottles filled to 3500 psi, fed, in turn through MP reducers and check valves into the starting-air system.  But, on our arrival in South Bend and wishing to turn head-to-sea to facilitate our later departure, we were defeated by a pilot who, familiar only with big, single-screw lumber carriers, didn't have a clue how to turn a twin-screw ship into the Willapa River.  Instead of "Port ahead one-third, starboard back one-third, right full rudder," and in blissful disregard of the CO's increasingly vocal  entreaties,  he  stayed  firmly  with  the  only  game  in  which  he had confidence: "Right full  rudder.   All Engines ahead full.   All engines stop.   Left full rudder.   All engines back full. All engines stop. Right full rudder.  All engines ahead full.  All engines stop..."  After some 15 - 20 of these circles (I used to know the exact number, but age has dimmed that light bulb), we ran out of starting air just as number one line got secured to the pier.  A providential flood tide got the rest of the ship safely alongside, but the air compressors were running long after the main engines had been secured.

A great port visit, from both the ship's and the town's perspective, as illustrated by the fact that the town drunk (honest to God) cast off number one line when we sailed early Monday morning.  This prompted other townspeople to the pier to loudly observe that (1) they had never before seen him awake that early, and (2) the only reason he didn't follow the line into the water (and he almost did) was that he was uncharacteristically.

As I mentioned earlier, our patrol stations were some 250 - 300 miles off the Washington and Oregon coasts, which put  us  fairly  in  the middle of the migratory whale routes each spring.  Entire pickets (i. e. 2 - 3 week on-station cruises) would pass when we would seldom be out of sight of whales, traveling either as pods of a dozen or so down to individual families of two or three.  In good weather, we usually steamed at 1/3 speed on one screw, which gave us a speed of 5 knots, and it was not unusual for whales traveling on the surface to get within 100 feet or so of our beam before sounding with a disdainful wave of their flukes.  In fact, one big fellow bore in so close before diving that the OOD  sounded  collision  quarters,  and  both  the  CO  and  I supported  his  decision  to  do so.

This Russian roulette had its tragic consequences, however, because one calm day, when surrounded by 50 - 100 whales, we felt a slight jar, and a small whale 15' to 20' long surfaced astern.  We lighted off the other shaft and came around to witness a sight I shall never forget, and hope never to see again.  Our screw had sliced off 3/4 of the fluke of a baby whale, and two mature whales (presumably the mother and father) were swimming alongside to support the baby, which was thrashing the water with the pitiful remnants of its fluke, from which were pouring great gouts of blood.  About 5 minutes of that was all we could take and, realizing there was nothing useful we could do, we steamed off to let the tragedy play out in privacy.

Another experience with whales was sighting the carcass of an enormous dead whale, close to 100 feet long, which we lay right alongside on two successive days as we steamed to and fro to remain within the boundaries of our picket station.  The carcass had attracted dozens of sharks, who launched themselves 2/3 of the way out of the water to fasten their jaws on the carcass, then whipped their bodies back and forth with their tails to rip off great scimitar-shaped chunks of flesh before sliding back into the sea.

Being on the receiving end of those trans-Pacific winter gales had its compensations in the spring, because glass floats ripped out of Japanese and Korean fishermen's nets by the winter gales later turned up off the Washington and Oregon coasts in the summer. We had a field day picking them up.  As I said previously, when the weather was good we normally steamed at 1/3 speed on one shaft, this to remain within a circle of 60 miles' radius centered on our station coordinates.  One spring, we were within sight of glass fishing balls virtually every daylight hour for 2+ weeks. Our established rules  for  picking  them  up  were  as  follows:  (1)  The  second  shaft would never  be  lighted  off. (2)  Whaleboat recovery would not be considered.  (3)  Nine bells -- including each "Stop" counted as a separate bell -were allowed per attempt.  (4)  Maximum RPM allowed -- 2/3 ahead and 2/3 astern (i. e. no "Full bells allowed to save a sloppy approach).  (5)  OOD on watch had the first shot at recovery. Thereafter first-come, first-served as conning officer, with a limitation of nine balls per person until the ball was recovered.

We were picking up so many that summer that, in addition to spreading the opportunities for conning the ship, we began awarding the recovered fishing balls in accordance with seniority, i. e., the skipper got the first, I got the second, etc.  Before the weather got too bad to play the game any more, most of the non-rated seamen and firemen on board had been piped to  the  bridge to pick up a fishing ball.

I don't know how  SAVAGE used to roll before her conversion to a DER, but I can tell you that after her conversion she had the fastest snap-roll I ever experienced in a lifetime in destroyers.  To compensate for the extra mast and other topside weight fitted during her conversion, fifty tons of pig iron ballast had been installed in a void right down by the keel amidships.  Her roll period -- from full over on one side to full over on the other side and back again to her original starting point -- was about eight seconds, whether she was rolling ten degrees or thirty degrees.  That increased somewhat as she exceeded thirty degrees' roll, which got increasingly worrisome as the roll amplitude increased, because you began wondering at what point she would start to hang up.  The biggest roll I can remember taking in the SAVAGE was 56 degrees, and although I can vividly remember lying against the bridge wing and looking almost straight down into the water, I must confess that SAVAGE didn't show any signs that she was anywhere near her limit.

I imagine the engineers will remember that SAVAGE had four Fairbanks-Morse 38D8 1/8 medium speed diesels, rated at a total of either 5500 HP or 6000 HP (I have seen both numbers, but we used the lower figure), coupled to twin screws through reduction gears with a 1.8 to 1 ratio and fluid couplings.  The instruction manuals listed the maximum propeller revolutions as 400 RPM, which translated to an engine speed of 720 RPM.  However, the best we were able to achieve routinely was about 370 - 375 RPM, which figure represented something of a challenge to us. Therefore, when it came time to run our annual full power trials in 1957, the chief engineer announced to all and sundry that we were going to achieve 400 RPM, and the engineers were all heads-down and fannys-up, tweaking and tuning and adjusting the plant to make it so.  Well, the upshot was that we DID make 400 RPM for the one hour full power trial, but it was about the hairiest ride anyone ever had. Apparently Fairbanks-Morse didn't devote a great deal of effort to ensure that the fuel racks and governors worked smoothly at the upper end of the RPM range, because those engines were surging 20 - 30 RPM throughout the trial.  If it hadn't been for the fluid couplings, which allowed a certain amount of tolerance in handling engines surging at different rates, some very unpleasant and expensive noises would probably have terminated any thought of reaching 400 RPM.

Another engineering challenge was posed by the two auxiliary boilers, whose purpose it was to provide steam for the galley, laundry, ventilation heaters and -- most especially -- the evaporators for making fresh water.  I don't know if these were the same boilers that were originally installed, or whether they had been modified or even replaced during the conversion.  At any rate, although they were small units rated at only 150 psi, they were fired by an automatic control system of uncertain ancestry, wondrous complexity and cantankerous unreliability.  To top it all off, our total allowance of personnel to operate and maintain these beasts was a single BT3, usually right out of school, where he had been taught about nothing but 600 psi express boilers with superheat.

I mentioned earlier that, in my two years with the DERs, only one ship had to leave station early.  Her downfall was caused by the total failure of both boilers, which left her unable to make fresh water. She had to head for home, not because of a shortage of drinking water (lifeboat rations, soups, canned soft drinks and juices etc. gave a pretty good reserve there), but because she had to reach port before running out of cooling water for the main engines and generators.  In SAVAGE, our engineers painted the name "Peter" in large letters on one boiler and the name "Paul" in equally large letters on the other, because in order to keep one boiler working we were always robbing Peter to pay Paul.  As further insurance, during our yard period in early 1957, we had the forward peak tank sand-blasted and zinc dusted for use as an emergency fresh water tank.  Our getting underway checkoff list included filling the peak tank with clean fresh water the day before we were scheduled to sail.

I hope that the above paragraphs give something of the feeling that, during the time I sailed in her, SAVAGE was a special ship, because she truly was.  We not only felt it, we knew it, and so did everyone else -- including the squadron commodore and even the squadron wives.  And, knowing that it was so, every man on board put more pride in his work to make sure that we -- the ship -- lived up to it.

One example typifies that spirit, and the results it achieved.  After completing 3-month overhauls in Bremerton, Washington, SAVAGE and HAVERFIELD sailed to San Diego for 6 weeks refresher training with the Fleet Training Group.  Some jacksass on the DESPAC staff, located in San Diego, decided that it would save the staff some travel time and money if they gave our annual Sanitary Inspection on a Saturday, right in the middle of our underway training.  Although both ships and the Fleet Training Group protested mightily, it was to no avail.  In HAVERFIELD, the reaction was by and large that it was not a reasonable requirement (which it wasn't), and they wouldn't put any more effort into it than the bare minimum necessary to get by.  That's exactly what they did, scoring a borderline SATISFACTORY.

The reaction in SAVAGE, though, was "if those S. O. B.'s think they can put us down, they've got another thought coming.  We'll show the bastards."  And did we ever.  Every bunk had a clean, pressed mattress cover.  The crew wore dirty clothes for a day so the laundry had time to be transformed into a spotless showplace.  All the tiled decks were stripped, waxed and buffed to mirrors.  The reefers and provisions storerooms were emptied, cleaned and re-stowed.  In over 38 years in the Navy, I have never seen a ship's company work with as much enthusiasm, initiative and energy to turn an already good ship into true showplace.  About 2200 the night before the inspection, I went to the Captain (Bob Brogoitti) to report that things were going well ands reassure him that, in my view, we would do well. He turned in, and I continued prowling about until 0100 or so, when it became apparent that my travels were increasingly restricted by roped-off compartments and passageways, and department heads, division officers and gangs of men inspecting, cleaning and polishing everything in sight.  Breakfast Saturday morning was held at 0500, to give the galley, messdecks and wardroom adequate time to clean up.

Neither the CO nor I will ever forget what we found when we got up that morning.  Except for the two of us, every man aboard SAVAGE had stayed up working all night long.  Everything we saw was perfect in every detail, as typified by the deck drains.  These are drains located in the heads, showers, galley, mess deck, laundry, berthing compartments etc., which are mounted flush with the deck, and in which are fitted brass enclosures held in place by four brass screws (most of which are usually missing or broken).  The closures are operated with a "T" wrench when setting or securing from Condition ZEBRA.  Every one of SAVAGE's deck drain closures had been removed, buffed to a bright shine with a wire brush, and placed upside down next to the drain in which it  fitted.  Each one of the screw holes was fitted with shiny brass flat-head screws.  Each rack held a "T" wrench, most of which had been made in the machine shop that week.  And each drain, usually the repository of a stomach turning collection of dirty swab water, cigarette butts, rotten swab strings and the like, had been cleaned until it shone.  That, and ever so many other superbly executed details, literally brought tears to the captain's eyes as he and I walked through the ship with the inspecting party.

Needless to say, we passed!  With the highest grade of OUTSTANDING ever awarded by DESPAC. The SAVAGES -- as we always referred to ourselves -- showed the bastards, but good.  Incidentally, the CO of the HAVERFIELD's first words to Bob Brogoitti after the inspection party left were, "You son of a bitch!"  He never did believe that the skipper played a very minor role in achieving those results, and that the SAVAGES had just gotten it into their heads to show those bureaucratic boobs what a REAL ship looked like.

Last sea story.  Bob Brogoitti was an excellent ship-handler, and he encouraged all the officers to get as much ship-handling experience as possible.  Recovering Japanese fishing balls was one example. Another was the fact that we normally held two or more hours of ship-handling drills four or five times a week when the weather was good, making approaches on boxes thrown overboard to simulate buoys or piers.  But we all knew that the best ship-handler on board was our sea detail helmsman, a hashmarked Signalman Third Class named Baker.  Many is the time that the CO, or I, or one of the officers conning an approach on Pier 91 would order (for example), "Right full rudder," only to have Baker immediately acknowledge, "Rudder is full right, sir."  And we'd look down to find that the rudder angle indicator was indeed already at right full.  We never had a clue as to when Baker put the helm over, nor to my knowledge did Baker ever make a rudder correction that the conning officer later failed to order.

Baker was not only good, but he knew it, and like most signalmen -- so much of whose career is spent with the command echelons on a ship's bridge -- he was not bashful in expressing himself.   On a number of occasions as we were making our approach to a pier or a buoy, I heard Baker shout from the pilot  house to the CO (or other conning officer),  "Sir, you're blocking my view of the jackstaff. Would you please stand to one side?"  We always did.

One fine sunny afternoon in the spring of 1958, we were making practice landings on the end of Pier 91, which was perfect for the purpose, the end of the pier being 300 feet wide, in deep water, and more than half a mile from the shoreline.  Various officers took turns making landings.  After each there would be a brief critique, then the ship would circle around for the next candidate's turn.  After the first 4 or 5 landings, the skipper asked, "Do you want to try it, Baker?"  Needless to say, the answer was yes, whereupon Bob Brogoitti asked, "Who do you want to take the helm?" To which Baker said, "I'll handle the helm myself."  And he did just that, standing on the bridge wing, giving engine orders to the lee helmsman, and strolling into the pilothouse every now and then to touch up the helm.  It was a beautiful landing, and Baker looked like the cat who had swallowed the canary when he turned the conn over to the officer who was next in line.

Those are some of the most vivid memories of SAVAGE that come to mind.  She was a great ship when I was in her, a proud ship, a most capable and professional ship, and a happy ship.  I think almost anyone who sailed her during those years would say the same, because we shared an uncommon sense of purpose and camaraderie. None of us wanted to be the one to let our ship or our shipmates down.  Other people must have appreciated that we were doing things right, because that   little   twelve-man   wardroom   bred   two   flag   officers,   myself   and  the  Gunnery Officer, Richard C. Berry [deceased].

This has been far too long, but I think so often and so fondly of my time in SAVAGE -- and the things we did in her played such a big part in the success of my own commands."

Bruce Keener, III 
Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (Ret.) 

[DOD:  17 November, 2002 following a stroke.]
June 1947    ENS

June 1950    LTJG

July 1953     LT

July 1958     LCDR

July 1963     CDR

July 1968     CAPT

July 1975     RADM

01 September 1981   Retired 
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